Our members had problems getting anyone to take responsibility for a new bath that cracked.

All Carolyn and Dave Armitstead wanted was a new bath. They thought they'd found it at Zip Plumbing Plus in New Plymouth. But the Englefield acrylic bath they ordered had to be returned to Zip because of a flaw in the surface coating. Not long after the replacement was installed, cracks appeared in the coating on the bottom of the bath.

The Armitsteads contacted Zip Plumbing Plus to get the problem fixed. Zip said it would get in touch with the manufacturer, Kohler New Zealand. Several months later, a Kohler representative eventually turned up to look at the bath. Carolyn says he stayed about 10 minutes, claimed the cause of the cracking was "hot water" and said Kohler wasn't responsible.

Carolyn was astounded. "We were told Kohler won't take any responsibility if the hot water used in the bath is above 55°C. The representative said our hot water must be over 55°C but he didn't even test it," she said. Kohler also has a long list of other things it says void its warranty – including the use of bath oils, bath salts and citrus-based cleaners.

When we called Kohler, the company initially told us the building code says hot water should be no more than 55°C and it wouldn't cover any faults caused by water above that temperature. Zip Plumbing Plus also told us it wasn't responsible, giving similar reasons.

The building code compliance documents do state domestic hot water systems should be installed so the water’s no more than 55°C. But this is to prevent scalding – not stop baths cracking. We'd expect an acrylic bath to be manufactured with a tolerance to cope with water at least a few degrees above 55°C.

The Consumer Guarantees Act also requires goods to be fit for purpose. If the bath's design means it will be damaged by water heated above 55°C (or by bath salts), then these limitations should be made clear at the point of sale. Carolyn said there was nothing provided by Zip that suggested the bath would be damaged in such circumstances.

Kohler's Mark Skelton has now told us the company is going to investigate further the problem with the bath. He says Kohler stands behind its products and has offered to replace the bath, whether or not a manufacturing fault is found. That's welcome news for the Armitsteads. It's also good to hear that Kohler is willing to back its product and resolve this problem for the couple.

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Some Cleaners can craze Fibreglass Posted by: Planespotter 27 May 2011 5:44pm

Any cleaner containing Isopropyl Alcohol such as and "Ajax Spray and Wipe" and "Mr Muscle Glass cleaner" may contain Isopropyl Alcohol (I.P.A.) A well known side effect of using this chemical is that it can craze acrylic coated fibreglass bathtubs, basins, or solid acrylic shower walls etc. Manufactureres are usually fairly definite about not using products containig this chemical, however many cleaners do not state what is in their secret recipe. It surprises me that Kohler do not take this use of cleaners as a possible "Out" clause for their warranty.

Hot Water Bunkum Posted by: Paul & Mary Farmer 10 May 2011 10:58pm

I have been a plumber since 1962 and I have never heard such a ridiculous thing in my life, for a bath manufacturer to state that too hot a water was used in a bath, I know present regulations state than water should not come out of the tap at greater than 55 degrees but with modern technologies and materials it a poor show to put it mildly.
I can remember fibreglass baths and perspex baths in the UK (before anti scald maximum temperatures were even thought of) which had to stand up to near boiling water at times and with no detriment to the finish or integrity of the baths.
That the manufacturer took so long to come to the party beggars belief, my own personal ethos should a problem occur is to fix the problem without delay,as a happy customer generates many referrals to their friends and relatives.
Maybe I'm old fashioned but I really believe that we are losing that ethic that I was taught as an apprentice that until you find out otherwise the customer is always right.

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