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Carpet is not insured when not gued on
Andy Holler
17 Feb 2010 10:52am
We had a fire in our rental property which destroyed the content 100%. Our policy is a full replacement.
The carpet was professionally installed. The insurance company will not compensate for the carpet because it was not glued to the floor boards. Therefore it is not a chattel and will be not covered by the house insurance.
Warning: all rental property owners - make sure you have a content insurance and coordinate your house insurance policy with the new content insurance. Even when you think your house is empty - often that is not the case and if its not glued or fixed to the house structure you will not have cover with your house insurance.
Greater Detail PLEASE
John McCaffery
05 Dec 2009 3:57pm
Consumer reports in complex areas like insurance need to have an overview summary as above BUT ALSO a detailed report. NEWS SIS is about to impose a $250 excess on all its policies BUT is still advertising and selling them with a no- excess advertising and information to prospective policy holders. Yesterday they refused to reduce our insurance fron $60,000 on the grounds we appeared to be deliberately UNDERinsuring ? What is this?????
There are so many clauses and strategies they uses that we all do not understand that YOU need to alert us to them eg ; Full replacement up to 10 years -then nothing ? Replacement for some categories but not others ? Discounts for increased excesses -publish .Holiday home provisions are especially problematic- and often unfair as they DO NOT spell these out. The bands each compay uses eg : wont insure less that $10,000; $30,000- ban moves up significantly at $50,000? keep under this as approx 50% of all intems in household are worth less than $250. How opften does a total loss actually occurr ? Perhaps we should insure fror a 75 % loss as (95% of all claims are actually for this or less -Then we can assess the risk .. ALSO how to get past the GUARDS on the phones who refuse to allow us to speak to anyone else about matters- Ap[parently there are no Managers- Senior staff any more to who you cann appeal the decision of a phone JOCK !!! WEll why dont COSUMER RUN a what are your ecxperiences with insurance again and then tabulate the research it produces? -as you do with used cars
Apartment above business
Lisa McArthur
03 Sep 2009 8:17am
My fiance and I moved into a rental apartment last night and I contacted AMI to change contents. After 30mins I was advised that because the apartments were above a commercial business cover could not be provided! Apparently it makes no difference that there are smoke doors, seperate entrance for tenants and customers, video survellance and individual key codes! This seems mad as most apartments in cities are above some kind of business! Are people just not being honest and not stating this when changing contents? But then wouldnt they be stung when making a claim? I contacted State who also advised they take the same stand. Meanwhile I have contents all around the countryside and in this new apartment uninsured - what does one do? Has anyone struck this before? Would be very interested to find out ways around this! Murphys Law - now that I dont have contents who knows..
I wonder if people have any experience with insuring older houses - mine is built in 1918, has new roofing and wiring but doesn't necessarily have new piles or linings. Any insurer particularly good in this market?
Reply 1:
lubblyjubbly
20 Sep 2009 8:16pm
We are about to move into a house that was built in the 1920s. AMI said an assessor would need to inspect the outside of the house before approving the policy. We were not charged for this and it was approved quickly and easily
Reply 2:
Caryn .
10 Oct 2009 9:35pm
Normally for any house prior to 1920 it has to be relined, rewired, re-piled and re-plumbed in order to be covered for the actual value (completely rebuilt regardless of cost), if all of these are not met than your house will only be covered for indemnity value - meaning the market value at the time of loss.
Reply 3:
Andy Holler
17 Feb 2010 10:43am
Hi Barry AMI seems to have an assessor system in regards to old houses and will make a decision once the assessor has been on site and seen the property. This is a good system as it gives you also peace of mind once the assessor has seen it and approved it for insurance purposes. Or in an other scenario it gives you the knowledge what you have to upgrade to get an insurance on the house.
Andy/ andy_holler@yahoo.co.uk
Reply 4:
Clare Hewitt
08 Apr 2011 8:06pm
our house was built 1920 ish. When we first bought it AMI refused to cover it. It was very rough then, and FMG gave us full replacement cover from day 1. we have over 20 years replaced the roof and spouting. done up the kitchen and bathroom and replaced a lot of windows but never touched piles or interior linings except in the kitchen and bathroom.We did get the previous owner to rewire before we bought it and have re plumbed because the old galvanised pipes were sick but FMG never asked us to do any improvements to get cover. Unfortunately they are a rural company so this won't help city dwellers.
Limits on Jewellery
GemLab
09 Jul 2009 11:49am
As Jewellery Valuers we see many people with bad experiences with jewellery claims. We suggest that everyone checks their policy wording and limits on jewellery. Many people don't realise they might only be covered for the second hand value, or that to have a claim fairly settled they will need proof of the nature and value of their jewellery (including less valuable items). Best idea to avoid an unfair settlement is to get it all professionally documented and listed on your policy.
I have a rental property and a tenant locked a cat in the bedroom and in the end I had to evict the tenant. The urine smell was so bad that I could not rent the house out.
They clain that the excess applies to every time the cat weed so no claim.
I dont agree and could this be malicious damage.
Landlords insurance
Matt Frear
29 Jun 2009 3:58pm
How about comparing policies for a rental property?
I have a contents only policy with Tower. After a recent (only) claim on this cover I was told my excess would increase from $250 to $2000 if I did not have deadlocks/window stays put in place. I have asked my landlord to do this but have not received any response about that. Who is liable if I happen to have another burglary before this is sorted and why is there such a huge jump? in my excess.
We had a fire in our rental property which destroyed the content 100%. Our policy is a full replacement.
The carpet was professionally installed. The insurance company will not compensate for the carpet because it was not glued to the floor boards. Therefore it is not a chattel and will be not covered by the house insurance.
Warning: all rental property owners - make sure you have a content insurance and coordinate your house insurance policy with the new content insurance. Even when you think your house is empty - often that is not the case and if its not glued or fixed to the house structure you will not have cover with your house insurance.
Andy NZ
Consumer reports in complex areas like insurance need to have an overview summary as above BUT ALSO a detailed report. NEWS SIS is about to impose a $250 excess on all its policies BUT is still advertising and selling them with a no- excess advertising and information to prospective policy holders. Yesterday they refused to reduce our insurance fron $60,000 on the grounds we appeared to be deliberately UNDERinsuring ? What is this?????
There are so many clauses and strategies they uses that we all do not understand that YOU need to alert us to them eg ; Full replacement up to 10 years -then nothing ? Replacement for some categories but not others ? Discounts for increased excesses -publish .Holiday home provisions are especially problematic- and often unfair as they DO NOT spell these out. The bands each compay uses eg : wont insure less that $10,000; $30,000- ban moves up significantly at $50,000? keep under this as approx 50% of all intems in household are worth less than $250. How opften does a total loss actually occurr ? Perhaps we should insure fror a 75 % loss as (95% of all claims are actually for this or less -Then we can assess the risk .. ALSO how to get past the GUARDS on the phones who refuse to allow us to speak to anyone else about matters- Ap[parently there are no Managers- Senior staff any more to who you cann appeal the decision of a phone JOCK !!! WEll why dont COSUMER RUN a what are your ecxperiences with insurance again and then tabulate the research it produces? -as you do with used cars
reagrsd
Yachtsail
My fiance and I moved into a rental apartment last night and I contacted AMI to change contents. After 30mins I was advised that because the apartments were above a commercial business cover could not be provided! Apparently it makes no difference that there are smoke doors, seperate entrance for tenants and customers, video survellance and individual key codes! This seems mad as most apartments in cities are above some kind of business! Are people just not being honest and not stating this when changing contents? But then wouldnt they be stung when making a claim? I contacted State who also advised they take the same stand. Meanwhile I have contents all around the countryside and in this new apartment uninsured - what does one do? Has anyone struck this before? Would be very interested to find out ways around this! Murphys Law - now that I dont have contents who knows..
I wonder if people have any experience with insuring older houses - mine is built in 1918, has new roofing and wiring but doesn't necessarily have new piles or linings. Any insurer particularly good in this market?
We are about to move into a house that was built in the 1920s. AMI said an assessor would need to inspect the outside of the house before approving the policy. We were not charged for this and it was approved quickly and easily
Normally for any house prior to 1920 it has to be relined, rewired, re-piled and re-plumbed in order to be covered for the actual value (completely rebuilt regardless of cost), if all of these are not met than your house will only be covered for indemnity value - meaning the market value at the time of loss.
Hi Barry
AMI seems to have an assessor system in regards to old houses and will make a decision once the assessor has been on site and seen the property. This is a good system as it gives you also peace of mind once the assessor has seen it and approved it for insurance purposes. Or in an other scenario it gives you the knowledge what you have to upgrade to get an insurance on the house.
Andy/ andy_holler@yahoo.co.uk
our house was built 1920 ish. When we first bought it AMI refused to cover it. It was very rough then, and FMG gave us full replacement cover from day 1. we have over 20 years replaced the roof and spouting. done up the kitchen and bathroom and replaced a lot of windows but never touched piles or interior linings except in the kitchen and bathroom.We did get the previous owner to rewire before we bought it and have re plumbed because the old galvanised pipes were sick but FMG never asked us to do any improvements to get cover. Unfortunately they are a rural company so this won't help city dwellers.
As Jewellery Valuers we see many people with bad experiences with jewellery claims. We suggest that everyone checks their policy wording and limits on jewellery. Many people don't realise they might only be covered for the second hand value, or that to have a claim fairly settled they will need proof of the nature and value of their jewellery (including less valuable items). Best idea to avoid an unfair settlement is to get it all professionally documented and listed on your policy.
I have a rental property and a tenant locked a cat in the bedroom and in the end I had to evict the tenant. The urine smell was so bad that I could not rent the house out.
They clain that the excess applies to every time the cat weed so no claim.
I dont agree and could this be malicious damage.
How about comparing policies for a rental property?
I have a contents only policy with Tower. After a recent (only) claim on this cover I was told my excess would increase from $250 to $2000 if I did not have deadlocks/window stays put in place. I have asked my landlord to do this but have not received any response about that. Who is liable if I happen to have another burglary before this is sorted and why is there such a huge jump? in my excess.